Former advisor to US Secretary of State John Kerry, Dr Charles Edel, returns to the podcast to discuss his new book, The Lessons of Tragedy: Statecraft and World Order (Yale University Press). Charles details what those lessons are and how the White House – or those in the race for it in 2020 – might apply them.

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Produced by Elliott Brennan.

Thanks to the Bubamara Brass Band, Ketsa and the United States Army Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps for their musical contributions to this episode.