USSC Non-Resident Senior Fellow and former Australian diplomat Jane Hardy joins a podcast by NK News to discuss how Australia has engaged with North Korea over the past few decades, and what that experience reveals about diplomacy, deterrence and nuclear risk today.

Jane Hardy, who spent over 30 years in the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, shares insights from her work on Korean Peninsula issues during the Sunshine Policy era, including Australia’s brief normalisation with Pyongyang and her own visit to North Korea in 2001.