SBS News spoke to Associate Professor in American Politics Brendon O'Connor about the release of secretly recorded tapes of President Donald Trump speaking to former staffer Omarosa Manigault-Newman. The tape shows an apparent disconnect between the president and the inner workings of the White House.

"While some this stuff can be played for laughs, on the other hand, some of this stuff relates to how really important policy and decisions are made. You have to hold these two views simultaneously," Professor O'Connor said.